When we have chosen candidates before and put them in order of preference for the E.U. elections along comes a person whom we have never heard of, who has never stood in an election for the party , who has never slogged round streets leafleting day after day, who was never a member of the party before the sudden parachuting in, etc.etc. to name but one, Kilroy-silk. I for one have had enough of this so called democratic party and am not rejoining. David Nixon, UKIP Councillor
We have already mentioned that Nigel Farage is seeking to change UKIP's Constitution in order to allow the NEC - controlled by him - final say who gets on the MEP lists. It will also give him the final decision on whether the party joins a pan-European grouping. Our readers may recall that members soundly rejected Farage's previous attempt to turn UKIP into a pan-European party. LINK.
But Farage was never one to let democracy and the will of the membership get in the way of his desire to make even more money on the EU Gravy Train.
It will interest our readers to know that Farage has also been offering his sycophants the chance to stand as MEPs in return for their support over the new constitution, including their total loyalty and acceptance of his control over both the NEC and the Party.
Harry Aldridge - a leading Farage sycophant - has been offered second place in the South East. It will come as surprise to learn that Aldridge is one of the most vocal in support of the new constitution!
Neil Hamilton and Steve Crowther have been offered the two lead positions in the South West. Trevor Colman will be deselected for defying Farage and leaving the EFD. LINK
Steven Woolfe - London Assembly candidate and Farage sycophant - has been promised a lead position on one of the lists. More than one one source has told Junius that Farage wants Woolfe to replace Gerard Batten as lead London MEP candidate. Indeed, the assembly list was altered to ensure that Woolfe became lead candidate despite David Coburn having received the most votes in the internal party elections for the list. Woolfe should have been fourth on the list but Farage - via the NEC - changed it!
It will interest our readers to know that Farage has also been offering his sycophants the chance to stand as MEPs in return for their support over the new constitution, including their total loyalty and acceptance of his control over both the NEC and the Party.
Harry Aldridge - a leading Farage sycophant - has been offered second place in the South East. It will come as surprise to learn that Aldridge is one of the most vocal in support of the new constitution!
Neil Hamilton and Steve Crowther have been offered the two lead positions in the South West. Trevor Colman will be deselected for defying Farage and leaving the EFD. LINK
Steven Woolfe - London Assembly candidate and Farage sycophant - has been promised a lead position on one of the lists. More than one one source has told Junius that Farage wants Woolfe to replace Gerard Batten as lead London MEP candidate. Indeed, the assembly list was altered to ensure that Woolfe became lead candidate despite David Coburn having received the most votes in the internal party elections for the list. Woolfe should have been fourth on the list but Farage - via the NEC - changed it!
And how we laughed when a slightly drunk Farage was witnessed reading the riot act to Woolfe outside a Westminster pub. This concerned Steven's reluctance to stand in the London Assembly elections. Nigel was heard to tell him that standing in the LA elections was essential if he still wanted to become an MEP. Farage also boasted that HE would have the final say on who stands as an MEP after the proposed constitutional changes were approved because, "I will control the lists as I control the NEC".
As we said, Harry Aldridge has been wheeled out in order to persuade the gullable that giving the NEC (meaning Farage) the final say on who stands for UKIP is in the "best interests of the party" as it prevents "rogue candidates" - such as David Bannerman and Marta Andreasen - getting on the lists. What little Harry forgets to mention is that both these "rogue candidates" were Farage's favoured candidates! Indeed, he rigged the lists to ensure that they became MEPs! LINK &; LINK
Fortunately, many UKIPPERS are not going to be fooled by Aldridge or his corrupt master. A large number of members have already condemned Farage and his cronies over this attempt to turn UKIP into the private plaything of the leader. UKIP is now in involved in a bitter civil war as Mike Nattrass and others lead the No campaign against Farage and his disgusting sycophants.
Click her to read the document that will give Farage complete and total control of the party. LINK
Here is selection of emails from our files, including Mike Nattrass' appeal to reject the new constitution!
Mike Nattrass on the proposed changes:
UKIP MEMBERS
You will have had the proposed UKIP Constitution information and voting paper, with the magazine.
The newly proposed constitution takes power away from Branches and the Conference. it also moves back in favour of Pan European Parties.
There is one voice for and yet no counter proposal at all ....... and we are again being railroaded and given no time to talk about the issues.
Please consider it seriously before voting.
I shall vote NO.
Herewith some of the paragraphs worth looking at:-
You will have had the proposed UKIP Constitution information and voting paper, with the magazine.
The newly proposed constitution takes power away from Branches and the Conference. it also moves back in favour of Pan European Parties.
There is one voice for and yet no counter proposal at all ....... and we are again being railroaded and given no time to talk about the issues.
Please consider it seriously before voting.
I shall vote NO.
Herewith some of the paragraphs worth looking at:-
3.3 and 3.4 open the door for pan european parties.
4.2.1 gives NEC carte blanche to introduce whatever they like.
4.3.d does this apply to Lord Pearson?
4.4.1 this allows the Party to keep Lord Pearson in the party ranks.
4.9 Yet another paragraph giving undefined power to the NEC.
6.3 deals with elections to the NEC but no mention of regional representation on the NEC.
7.1 gives the Leader the power to 'give political direction....and the development of policies. It should be 'assists in giving political direction'.
12.1.1 gives the NEC unlimited and undefined power concerning selection.
12.1.2 a clumsy way of preventing another Ashley Mote incident.
12.6.7.8 gives power to the NEC and away from the local constituency in the selection of candidates.
12.11 this strengthens up any undertaking by prospective MEPs to belong to a 'grouping' But the make up of such a group is not defined (3.3. and 3.4. would allow for any group 'subject to the right of the Leader and the NEC jointly to decide...).
In other words UKIP MEPs can be forced to belong to another EFD or ID group along with those who are federalists and extremists.
From: charles@myqualities.com
Subject: Vote 'No' to the new Constitution
Date: 7 February 2012 17:37:15 GMT
Dear UKIP activists,
Under the new Constitution the selection of candidates for Euro elections and General elections remains with the NEC. Branch or ConstituencynAssociations may only select candidates for Local elections in their area.
I believe that UKIP will not flourish unless Regional and Branch committees have the right to select UKIP candidates for Euro and General elections. Therefore I am voting 'No' to the new Constitution.
This is NOT because I have been denied membership of the approved Party list - I have never applied, and have no plans to do so. It is because UKIP is in danger of becoming a fiefdom. We demand that the EU has democratic legitimacy, but deny local activists the most important task of all - the selection of a local candidate to represent their area. Regional committees should have the final decision on Euro candidates - Branch committees on General election candidates. This is not to deny the NEC the right to create an approved list of candidates, but the list must be advisory only.
Yours sincerely,
Charles Swabey
Branch Chairman
Central & South Derbyshire
From: vanessa [mailto:spice.girl@btinternet.com]
Sent: 08 February 2012 12:04
Cc: Dmrsec@Ukipberkshire. Co. Uk
Subject: New Constitution
You have probably received the latest "Independence" magazine with the new Constitution inside with your ballot papers to vote "yes" or "no". I have had a long chat to some people within UKIP and I have been persuaded to vote NO and I am urging you to do the same.
I have been alerted that there are clauses in the new constitution which make it easier for UKIP to join a Pan-European party and therefore be given a great deal of "our" money to help the EU cause.
Also the membership vote for the Assembly List was re-jigged so the first 2 voted to the top of the list were put further down. I am not happy about this because this is not acceptable in a party purporting to be democratic.
I do hope you will agree with this and vote NO to the new constitution.
Kind regards
Vanessa Crichton
From: MartinHarveyONR@aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:39:41 -0500 (EST)
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Thanks for this David,
Thanks for this David,
The PEPP ballot was conducted after proper debate and the real UKIP Party voted against it quite rightly. I did say before the PEPP debate that we should see the new Constitution before we voted on the PEPP Issue.
We are now in a situation where 90% of our members will not understand what it is all about when they vote. This is not good enough.
Martin Harvey Chairman UKIP Broxbourne, member since 1995
Hi,
ReplyDeletemay I commend the Junius team yet again for raising the debate on UKIP issues beyond that of the corrupt leadership clique and their vile and cowardly claque.
For those who wish to understand UKIP issues without the lies and corrupt self serving spin of those seeking enrichment for themselves and a few chums may I suggest:
A thorough search of Junius blog and the various UKIP related blogs which I run.
Use of Junius's Right Sidebar and also the Right Sidebar of:
http://UKip-vs-EUkip.blogspot.com
may well prove to be the best source of indesp[utable FACTS available.
I say indesputable FACTS for try as they might on a daily basis, to date, UKIP and its sycophants and lick spittles have failed in many 1,000s of postings to show a single solitary error of consequence in a single posting.
It has not been shown, despite the cowardly lies of the anonymous sock puppets or the blatant lies of UKIP NEC members and MEPs or salaried parasites that there has been a single solitary malicious, dishonest, corrupt or self serving posting made whether deliberately or accidentally that has NOT been true both in substance and detail.
AT ANY TIME anyone who spots an error of FACT whether they consider it to be accidental or intentional PLEASE PHONE ME on:
01594528337 or 'e'Mail me at:
Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com
I WILL make ANY correction required for ANYONE giving their propper name and an identifiable phone land line (IN CONFIDENCE, which weeds out the liars and political scum like Skeptyk, Independent UKIP, Gothmog and the like).
Sadly I find I need virus & spam filters to weed out the more obsessed liars and fantasists like Mick McGough (who sent my spam filter around 20,000 unpleasant & tasteless spam eMails - a measure of the caliber of UKIP is this vile little man is an NEC member and a UKIP candidate for the EU's London assembly having lied & cheated to become an MEP candidate in the past).
Douglas Denny has been another serial public nuisance with his dwlusional lies and fantasies.
BUT they are not alone amongst UKIP's leadership!
Any item posted that is shown to be an error WILL be corrected and the error highlighted - I do NOT remove articles from my blogs and am all too willing to apologise for any error I need to correct.
Similarly I will pass on any correction to The Junius team and will try to do so withing 36 hours and WILL report back to the complainany with any rel;evant response.
I trust this helps members and the public - particularly regular readers from the media to learn and provide the TRUTH & the FACTS.
On my own behalf & I'm sure on Junius' behalf our thanks for the steady flow of leaked info. exposing UKIP and others (which we use or pass on to others to use).
Our thanks to the many who ensure we maintain the accuracy and veracity of our postings and have done so for several years.
Regards,
Greg_L-W.
01594-528 337
Greg_L-W@BTconnect.com